Richard Hernandez (sada u Microsoftu), Erik Lammerding, Eddy Cue, Stéphane Gilabert, Mary Beth Janes, Charles Matine, Juriaan Bosman, Patricia Montesion, François Lourdais, Larry Moss, Paul Ramsbottom, a kada su svi negdje zapeli, još sam ih dodatno cinkao Jobsu i Schilleru.